Reading George Bush’s new book Decision Points, I was shocked to read Billy Graham’s answer to Bush Sr.’s question. He basically asked, “Is it essential to be born again?” You’ll have to read this for yourself…Its unbelievable!
In the summer of 1985, we took our annual trip to Maine. Mother and Dad had invited the great evangelical preacher Billy Graham. Dad had asked him to answer some questions from the family after dinner. That was typical of Dad, always willing to share.
It would have sent a signal of importance to have had Billy to himself, but that is not George H.W. Bush. He is a generous man, devoid of a big ego. So there we sat, about thirty of us—Laura, my grandmother, brothers and sister, first and second cousins —in the large room at the end of the house on Walker’s Point.
The first question was from Dad. He said, “Billy, some people say you have to have a born-again experience to go to heaven. Mother [my grandmother] here is the most religious, kind person I know, yet she has had no born-again experience. Will she go to heaven?”
Wow, pretty profound question from the old man.
We all looked at Billy. In his quiet, strong voice, he replied, “George, some of us require a born-again experience to understand God, and some of us are born Christians. It sounds as if your mom was just born a Christian.” (Pgs. 48-49 of the Ebook)
Hopefully, Bush misremembers Graham’s exact words. Otherwise, this is compromise of the nth degree!
Jesus said, “…Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3) It’s imperative. It’s essential. There’s no getting around it. “…Ye MUST be born again.” (John 3:7)
Ever since I can remember I have been of the opinion that, if you don’t vote, you have no right to complain if the country goes to pot. I viewed non-voters as complacent, lazy, or just plain frustrated with the choices. But recently I was reading a book entitled Taking America Back by Joseph Farah. While I can’t say I will always follow his advice, I can say as a Christian, his words ring true. So without elaborating, I will just quote him and allow you to comment.
“You can’t vote for the lesser of two evils because that is still voting for evil. It’s better not to participate in evil at all. This is a hard one for many Americans who have become conditioned to the idea that voting is their central civic duty. It may be-but not if it means supporting evil, even a shade of evil…
… So many Americans say that failure to vote for one of the two major party candidates in any election is tantamount to “throwing your vote away.” I say voting for an illegitimate candidate-one who will not live under the rule of law and abide by the Constitution-is throwing your vote away. If you don’t have a choice, don’t vote. Don’t pretend you have a choice. Don’t dignify corrupt system with your participation in a charade.”
Does the new Health care bill provide funding for abortion at the expense of taxpayers? The answer would have to be “Yes” regardless of what promises Obama made to Bart Stupak. If you’ve not read the bill yet (who has?) you can find a copy of it here.
On pg. 591 it appears they are going to use tax dollars to give “postpartum” counseling to women who abort their babies. I mean, that’s what it looks like to me. The dad blame thing is over 2000 pages long and there could be something amending that language but, that’s how I read it. These people are sick in the head. They’re going to make us pay to kill babies then provide counseling if the woman feels bad about it! Talk about adding insult to injury!
While I probably wouldn’t use the same language as John Boehner, I can still understand his anger and frustration.
(Read the rest of the passage for yourself. I’m going to park on that last point.)
More than 42 million unborn babies have lost their lives since the US Supreme Court decided on January 22, 1973, that women have a constitutionally protected right to have an abortion On average, 3,836 pre-born babies have been routinely eliminated every day for thirty years. That means since 1973, unwanted babies have had their lives ended at an average rate of 2.5 per minute, 160 per hour, and 1,400,000 a year.
To those that claim the name of Christ, don’t even pretend to care about this issue unless you are registered to vote. If you’re not doing everything you
can to get these bunch of fag-loving baby-killers out of office, you should be ashamed to call yourself a Christian.
Closing Remarks
In conclusion, if you are a woman who’s had an abortion, as horrible as it is, God still wants to forgive you. If you’re not saved, there’s a God in Heaven Who’s not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Two thousand years ago, God sent His only-begotten Son down to this sin-cursed world we live in. He didn’t come to be worshipped necessarily; He came to be a sacrifice for all mankind. After all, someone has to pay for your sins. That’s why Christ died. He died in our place, suffered our shame, and bore our sins. If you reject Christ’s offer to put your sins under His blood and hide them from Holy eyes of our God, you will spend eternity in Hell. How do you come to Christ? You come with a simple, child-like faith. “Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.” Find out what God’s Word says, then call on God the best way you know how – Repent of your sins – and put your faith in what Jesus did on the cross! (2Cor 5:21) After you get saved, join a local, Independent, fundamental, Bible believing, King-James-only, soul winning, Baptist Church. I highly recommend my home Church: Tabernacle Baptist
“THOU SHALT NOT lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.” Leviticus 18:22-25
G.A.Y. = "Got AIDS Yet?"
I believe the up and coming generation needs to know, that men of God hold these individuals in derision. They need to know what a terrible abomination this is in the eyes of God. I detest being around Sodomites; they make me uncomfortable. I don’t like Chihuahuas. I just don’t like anything sissy!
There are many slang terms used to indicate a sodomite: fag, queer, fairy, etc. Webster’s 1828 Dictionary does not even contain the word ‘Homosexual’. But it does define Sodomite as: (1) An inhabitant of Sodom or (2) One guilty of sodomy. Since the term “sodomite” is used, even after Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed, definition one need not be considered.
Furthermore, sodomy is defined as ‘a crime against nature!’ Sodomy not only makes God sick, but Scripture implies that the land vomits at its very presence! “And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.” (Lev 18:25) Is it any wonder that California often convulses as would a man with upset stomach? Why does the land vomit? Because sodomy is a crime against nature!
When one attempts to defy the law of gravity by jumping off a cliff, they suffer the consequences. When two men get together and try to do what only man and wife were designed to do, they too will suffer the consequences.
Whether or not AIDS is God’s judgment on the sin of homosexuality I do not know. However, I am sure God is aware of the CDC’s recent statistics. On table 22 of their website the following information is available. Of white men with AIDS in the United States, it is estimated that 76% were men who have sex with men. Furthermore, add that to the 10% of men who have sex with men and inject drugs.
In the Bible, we have God’s disclosure of His will. Within the pages of Scripture we may peer into the mind of an Omnipotent God. In the Bible we are warned, “Be not deceived!” Could it be that some well-meaning ‘Christians’ are deceived? A person is deceived when they see nothing wrong with two men getting married, or two women having sex. Even with this sinful lifestyle becoming more and more tolerated, God still calls it an ‘abomination’ (Le 20:13). Nevertheless, “God is not mocked!”
Is AIDS God’s judgment on the perverts of America? Probably! The reality that God has not already rained down fire and brimstone on our darling nation proves that He is a loving God, and not that he condones a tainted standard of living.
Alongside I-85, a billboard advocating tolerance of sodomy says, “Gay or straight…All…equal.” This is of course a reference to the Declaration of Independence. However, it is interesting to note, they left out ‘created’ equal on their little sign! While I would partially agree with our founding fathers that all men are created equal, I would argue that all men do not remain that way!
All men are born into sin. You need not teach a baby to lie, it will learn on its own. That is natural. Children must be brought up in the nurture and admonition of the lord, because sin comes naturally to all. When an attractive yet scantily clothed woman walks by, a man’s ‘natural’ instinct is to look and lust after her. That’s natural, but that doesn’t make it right! Even if sodomites are ‘born that way,’ and even if they don’t have the slightest affection for the opposite sex; that still does not excuse what God calls an abomination!
Despite arguments to the contrary, the sin of sodomy is far from natural! As mentioned before, Webster defines sodomy as a ‘crime against nature!’ Romans 1:26 refers to it as “That which isagainst nature.” Vs. 27 says it’s an “…Error…” and “…Unseemly…” Vs. 28, Paul said these people “…do those things which are not convenient.” And, finally in Vs. 31 they’re “…without natural affection.”
In 2nd Kings 23:7, the Bible says Josiah “…Brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD…” - In Josiah’s time, the Sodomites had come out of the closet and settled down right beside the Church. And today we see the same thing happening! Perverts, no longer want merely to be left alone, they want to be accepted. They’re not concerned with simply being tolerated anymore; they want us to embrace their perverted lifestyle. I don’t care if they move in beside the parsonage and paint the house pink. I’ll point next door and tell my children, ‘Those people are wicked as Hell!’
You can’t show me a single instance where Jesus ever witnessed to a sodomite or a lesbian. In all 66 books, God never sent the homosexuals a prophet. But before you accuse me of being unloving: I have witnessed to several of them before. I’m just saying that I’m not planning on going into “fag evangelism.” Can you imagine setting up a rainbow-colored tent at all of the rest areas? I can’t fathom it but I do witness to them. Have you ever witnessed to one? By that I mean, have you ever showed them from the Scriptures that they’re at enmity with God and must needs repent or perish? Have you ever done that for anybody?
Burned by the saline solution used to abort her, this precious 4-½ month (2nd trimester) old baby girl lies dead. Slaughtered and chemically cooked alive at the hands of a money hungry, Godless, doctor.
Does the new Health care bill provide funding for abortion at the expense of taxpayers? The answer would have to be “Yes” regardless of what promises Obama made to Bart Stupak. If you’ve not read the bill yet (who has?) you can find a copy of it here.
On pg. 591 it appears they are going to use tax dollars to give “postpartum” counseling to women who abort their babies. I mean, that’s what it looks like to me. The dad blame thing is over 2000 pages long and there could be something amending that language but, that’s how I read it. These people are sick in the head. They’re going to make us pay to kill babies then provide counseling if the woman feels bad about it! Talk about adding insult to injury!
(Read the rest of the passage for yourself. I’m going to park on that last point.)
More than 42 million unborn babies have lost their lives since the US Supreme Court decided on January 22, 1973, that women have a constitutionally protected right to have an abortion On average, 3,836 pre-born babies have been routinely eliminated every day for thirty years. That means since 1973, unwanted babies have had their lives ended at an average rate of 2.5 per minute, 160 per hour, and 1,400,000 a year.
To those that claim the name of Christ, don’t even pretend to care about this issue unless you are registered to vote. If you’re not doing everything you can to get these bunch of fag-loving baby-killers out of office, you should be ashamed to call yourself a Christian.
WOULD YOU CONSIDER HAVING AN ABORTION IN ANY OF THE FOLLOWING SITUATIONS?
There’s a preacher and wife who are very, very poor. They already have 14 children, and now she finds out she’s pregnant with the 15TH. They’re living in tremendous poverty. Considering their poverty and the excessive world population, would you consider recommending an abortion?
The father is sick with a bad cold; the mother has tuberculosis (TB). They have 4 children. The 1st is blind, the 2nd is dead, the 3rd is deaf, and the 4th has TB. She finds out that she’s pregnant again. Given this extreme situation, would you consider recommending an abortion?
A white man has raped a 13-year-old black girl, and she became pregnant. If you were her parents, would you consider an abortion?
A teenage girl is pregnant. She’s engaged but her fiancé is not the father and now he’s thinking about calling off the marriage.
Would you consider an abortion under any of these circumstances? If you said yes to the first case, you just killed John Wesley, one of the greatest evangelists of the nineteenth century. If you said yes to the second case, you killed Ludwig van Beethoven. If you said yes to the third case, you killed Ethel Waters, the great black gospel singer. And, if you said yes to the fourth case, you killed Jesus Christ.
Closing Remarks
In conclusion, if you are a woman who’s had an abortion, as horrible as it is, God still wants to forgive you. If you’re not saved, there’s a God in Heaven Who’s not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Two thousand years ago, God sent His only-begotten Son down to this sin-cursed world we live in. He didn’t come to be worshipped necessarily; He came to be a sacrifice for all mankind. After all, someone has to pay for your sins. That’s why Christ died. He died in our place, suffered our shame, and bore our sins. If you reject Christ’s offer to put your sins under His blood and hide them from Holy eyes of our God, you will spend eternity in Hell. How do you come to Christ? You come with a simple, child-like faith. “Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.” Find out what God’s Word says, then call on God the best way you know how – Repent of your sins – and put your faith in what Jesus did on the cross! (2Cor 5:21) After you get saved, join a local, Independent, fundamental, Bible believing, King-James-only, soul winning, Baptist Church. I highly recommend my home Church: Tabernacle Baptist
Delivered on Wednesday Night October 28, 2009 as part of a Bible Study at
Tabernacle Baptist Church in Gaffney South Carolina.
I went to my 10 year high school reunion Saturday night. I knew they were going to have a bar there but I figured it wouldn’t be any worse than going to Applebee’s or some other bar and grill. Boy was I wrong! About 95% of them were drinking if not outright drunk.
To be fair, most of them were not acting up. I guess you could say they were respectable drunks, if there is such a thing. But just to give you an example of the atmosphere I found myself in: one of my old buddies kept putting his beer on the table in front of me, trying to take a picture of “the preacher” drinking.
Don’t get me wrong, I thought it was funny the first few times he did so but he went on to ask for my testimony and then told everybody in hearing distance that they were going to Hell if they didn’t believe the King James Bible because Jason Elder (that would be me) said so.
Now, I have never believed that, much less ever stated it. I do believe the King James Bible is the Word of God and those who read from other versions are working at a great disadvantage but I do not believe reading an NIV will send you to Hell. That’s ridiculous.
Anyway, after having several drinks spilled and almost spilled on me I became disgusted and decided it was time to go to the house.
But when I sat down at the house I got under such conviction that I had to put my clothes back on and go back up there. On the way there I stopped by my church to pick up a stack of tracts which I passed out at the party, before leaving again.
That was it; I wasn’t going to say a word. But that night a young lady posted a message on Facebook expressing her displeasure in the event as well. People jumped all over her because they thought she was talking about them.[1]
They said they had a good time and couldn’t understand why people were complaining. Another implied that those who were complaining were “haters.” Others said they were offended by “…the ones that can’t let loose and have a good time.”
It got to the point where the young lady was contemplating deleting her account because of all the criticism.
What stuck out in my mind was the fact that people could not seem to understand why a Christian person wouldn’t enjoy being around a bunch of drinking, dancing, and drug using. One of the girls who organized the event, supposedly a good Christian girl, said she had a ball and was definitely thinking about a 15 year reunion.
Do people really not know that it’s a sin to drink alcohol? The answer is apparent (just read the comments) and that’s why I brought this lesson.
In chapter one John the apostle gave a brief account of the nature rather of Jesus Christ. In chapter 2 we read about the miracle working power of our Lord.
John 2
1 And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there:
2 And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage.
That’s good to know; Jesus isn’t opposed to people getting married. The Bible never records Him attending a divorce proceeding but he did go to weddings
3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.
4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.
5 His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.
You should mark this verse down for your Catholic friends. This is the only command Mary ever gave. She said, “Listen to Jesus!”
6 And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece.
7 Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim.
8 And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it.
9 When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew;) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,
10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.
The common practice in that day was to serve the best wine first and then gradually water it down. And you know, that’s still the strategy of the world. They’ll show you all the good first get you hooked, and wean you off the good stuff. The world hasn’t changed, but I thank God, the Lord Jesus hasn’t changed either! He’s still saving the best for last!
This passage presents a certain dilemma.
Every drunk in Cherokee County knows that Jesus turned water into wine and they bring that up to justify their condition. They really don’t care what the Bible says. So usually when they make that statement I make them a deal. I offer to drive them to the local YMCA which houses a huge swimming pool. I tell them if they can turn that water into wine, just like Jesus did, I will drink every drop of it. But you know what? I might have one heck of a stomach ache but I’d still be sober as a judge because the wine Jesus made was non-alcoholic. Maybe “sober as a judge” isn’t the best terminology given recent events in Cherokee County but you get my point.
Class of 1999 – Very Cosmopolitan!
How Do I Know The Wine In John 2 Was Non-Alcoholic?
(1) Because Habakkuk 2:15 says, “Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink, that puttest thy bottle to him, and makest him drunken also…” If Jesus had provided alcoholic averages to these people in John chapter 2, he would’ve gone against the word of God.
How Do I Know Jesus Didn’t Drink Alcohol Himself?
(1) Leviticus forbids priests from drinking: “Do not drink wine nor strong drink….” (Lev 10:9-11) and Jesus is our “…high priest…” (Heb 2:17)
(2) The Book of Proverbs says, “…It is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:” (Prov 31:4) and Jesus is, “...KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.” (Rev 19:16)
How Do I Know It’s Sin For Christians To Drink Alcohol?
(1) As shown above its sin for kings and priests to drink and Jesus has made us “…kings and priests unto God and his Father…” (Rev 1:6)
If Jesus really did make water into wine, why does it grieve my spirit to hear a so-called preacher point to John 2 and call Jesus “The First Bartender?” And, why do we use grape juice for the Lord’s Supper instead of Mad Dog or Boone’s Farm?
I’ll tell you why; it’s semantics. “Wine” meant something a little bit different to people 2000 years ago than it does to us today. When we hear “wine” we naturally assume it’s got alcohol in it. Otherwise we would call it grape juice.
But you won’t find the term grape juice in the Bible because whether it’s fresh grape juice or fermented grape juice they called it all wine.
To prove that Isaiah 65:8 says “Thus saith the LORD, As the new wine is found in the cluster, and one saith, Destroy it not; for a blessing is in it…” Wine in the cluster is not talking about a six-pack. It’s talking about the juice in grapes that haven’t been picked yet. In other words, the Bible says you can find wine inside a fresh grape.
So it just stands to reason if they called the juice inside a cluster of fresh grapes “wine,” they must used “wine” as a generic term referring to just about any liquid related to grapes. So when Jesus turned water into wine, it wasn’t the kind that got you drunk.
Drinking The Same As Overeating?
Someone has said that over eating is just as big a sin as drinking is. But when you’re traveling down the highway, which would you rather meet, an overweight driver or a drunk driver?
Who has Emotional, Social, and Physical problems?
“Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? (Emotional problems) who hath contentions? who hath babbling? (Social problems) whohath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? (Physical problems)” The answer is: “They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.” (Prov 23:29-30)
Proverbs 23:33 lists some of the effects alcohol has on people “Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things.” You’ve probably heard that song; “…Don’t all the girls get prettier round closing time?” Those lyrics are so funny because they are so true. Alcohol makes bad things look a little bit better. But you know a whole lot of homes have been broke up because of that very thing. Like Billy Sunday said “Drinking has drained more blood, hung more crepe, killed more children, blinded more eyes, twisted more limbs, broke more hearts, and dug more graves than any plague that ever swept across this world.”
List of Hell-Bound People
In first Corinthians Paul lists several types of people who will not make it to heaven.
“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor DRUNKARDS, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Cor 6:9-10)
And if he stopped right there we’d all be in trouble.but thank God he goes on to say, “And such WERE some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.” (1 Cor 6:11)
And if you’re struggling with alcohol or drug addiction I have good news, there is a God in heaven Who specializes in hard cases. My friend, if Jesus can’t help you, I don’t know who can.
[1] That is called conviction. When you throw a rock into a pack of wild dogs, the one you hit is the one you’re going to hear from.
Holding a “sin-burning” (as some would call it) is nothing new. However a Bible is the last thing you would expect to see thrown in the fire! Nevertheless, as crazy as it sounds that is exactly what one North Carolina church is doing.
The church also plans to burn religious books by such eminent authors as Billy Graham, Rick Warren, John McArthur, James Dobson, Charles Swindoll, John Piper, Chuck Colson, Tony Evans, Oral Roberts, Jimmy Swagart, Franklin Graham , Bill Bright, Tim Lahaye, T.D. Jakes, Benny Hinn, Joyce Myers, Robert Schuller, Mother Teresa , and The Pope!
Tapes and CDs which contain what the pastor considers ungodly music are also on the list.
Needless to say it has sparked a firestorm of controversy. In fact the church’s website was down for some time, perhaps after being overwhelmed by visitors. But can it really be as bad as it sounds? After all, they don’t plan to burn every kind of Bible… just everything that is not the King James. Versions like the NIV, ASV, NASB, etc.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t burn Bibles of any kind. But I kind of feel bad for the poor old boy… He is trying to draw attention to the issue of Bible versions… a fact that the media glosses over with ease.
What if, next Sunday morning you attended a church where the preacher stood up and, reading from “the Bible” said, “You SON OF A BITCH?“ Well that’s exactly what he would say if he was reading from one of the first editions of the Living Bible.
In 1Samuel 20:30 the King James Version reads: “Thou son of the perverse rebellious woman…” But Kenneth Taylor’s Living Bible says, “…You son of a bitch…”
Being a Christian, I hate to even type that out but that’s exactly what it says. The editors of that version have since changed the wording because of complaints, but I kid you not, that is exactly what the Living Bible says.
Knowing that, would you still fault him for burning a Living Bible?
I’m not trying to defend Mr. Grizzard’s publicity stunt (which is all this amounts to). If I was the host of such an event I certainly wouldn’t give an interview to a reporter in my overalls like this Pastor did! I do wish he would have spell checked his flier at least before he sent it out, its littered with misspelled words.
Nevertheless, Christians should be alerted to the issue of Bible versions.
Take the NIV for instance, if you’re an avid reader, you must have noticed that it removes entire verses in some places.
Also in John 1:1 the King James Bible says, “…the Word was God.” Those of you familiar with the Bible know that “the Word” is a reference to Jesus.
The deity of Christ (Jesus being God in the flesh) is one of the most basic Bible doctrines. But the New World Translation says,”…the Word was a God.” Thus the NWT, a ‘translation’ put out by the Jehovah Witnesses, denies the deity of Christ.
There are many other examples I could list but time fails me. I simply want to say that this man who has been slaughtered by the media, might have his heart in the right place even if his methods are questionable.
WWJD?
Again, I wouldn’t do it myself; but when we ask WWJD, let’s not forget we’re talking about the same Jesus who, when He saw the commercialism in the Temple, “…made a scourge of small cords…” and then “…drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables; And said unto them that sold doves,Take these things hence; make not my Father’s house an house of merchandise.” (John 2:15-16)
I seriously doubt Michael Jackson is in Heaven. In fact, the lyrics from “Thriller” will probably haunt his child-molesting, bleached-white carcass throughout all eternity.
You hear the door slam and realize there’s nowhere left to run
You feel the cold hand and wonder if youll ever see the sun
You close your eyes and hope that this is just imagination
But all the while you hear the creature creepin up behind
You’re out of time
Recently however, a rumor surfaced that Andrae’ Crouch had visited Jackson three weeks before his death and led him to the Lord. I pray that’s so and I rejoice in the grace of God that can save anyone. But naturally I am skeptical so I visited Crouch’s Facebook page. The following are excerpts from Crouch’s page concerning Jackson’s alleged conversion. You can draw your own conclusions.
Dave Nassaney is the page administrator and posts for Mr. Crouch. According to Mr. Nassaney “Andrae’ and Sandra did in fact visit with MJ…as recently as 3 weeks ago…” Apparently Jackson had asked for “…prayer concerning the anointing of the Holy Spirit, and how he could make his music more “spiritual.””
Andrae’ Crouch …so Andrae’ and Sandra explained to him about the “anointing” and about Jesus. He wanted to know what makes your hands go up, and makes you “come out of yourself”, and what gives a “spirituality” to the music? He then requested to hear his favorite song that he loves, and wanted then to sing to him, so they sang that song to him, and joined hands and sang together, and he said, “it was beautiful”.
Andrae’ Crouch …He first heard it in NY, and loved it, and wanted it on tape. He had the engineer tape the song sang to him by Andrae’ and Sandra. He definitely had an “encounter” with them, Andrae’ says, “he did NOT reject Jesus or the prayer when they prayed, and gladly joined in prayer.” He usually doesn’t touch anybody, but he touched them, and held their hands in a circle as they sang and prayed…
Andrae’ Crouch …There was NO actual “sinners prayer” however, but they did talk and pray about Jesus and the anointing of the Holy Spirit. They also told him, “Michael, we consider you as our son”, and he said, “Yes, yes, yes”, and he gave him his latest music on a CD, and he told him, “Andrae’ I trust you with this”, and gave him CD’s of 2 songs, unpublished, …beautiful music. He still had his Christmas decorations up at home.
In Chicago a boy was sent by a drunken father to buy something at a store. Somehow the lad lost the money and he dared not go home, for when drunk his father got dreadfully angry about the slightest thing. A man who saw the boy shivering in a doorway learned of his trouble and gave him the dollar he had lost. Thanking the kind stranger the boy went off to the store, but suddenly he turned back and looking wistfully at the man said, “I wish’t you was my father!“
He had just caught a glimpse of the difference it would make to have a good father instead of a drunken one.
A young man was to be sentenced to the penitentiary. The judge had known him from childhood, for he was well acquainted with his father–a famous legal scholar and the author of an exhaustive study entitled, “The Law of Trusts. “Do you remember your father?” asked the magistrate. “I remember him well, your honor,” came the reply. Then trying to probe the offender’s conscience, the judge said, “As you are about to be sentenced and as you think of your wonderful dad, what do you remember most clearly about him?” There was a pause. Then the judge received an answer he had not expected. “I remember when I went to him for advice. He looked up at me from the book he was writing and said, ‘Run along, boy; I’m busy!’ When I went to him for companionship, he turned me away, saying “Run along, son; this book must be finished!’ Your honor, you remember him as a great lawyer. I remember him as a lost friend.” The magistrate muttered to himself, “Alas! Finished the book, but lost the boy!” Homemade, Feb, 1989